Well damn done y’all. Well done. I was a little worried at the start of this assignment but everyone worked hard and brought some great work to the table.

I really wish we could critique each and every image submitted but as you can see 80 images took over an hour. Well, we had a few glitches that I honestly don’t have the time to edit out. It’s critique and upload in the raw with this one as usual.

Well done. Really. I’m glad to see the level of work rising. Get ready for #DEDPXL07 because it’s going to kick your ass.

We pulled images from ::

The DEDPXL Flickr group.

The DEDPXL Google+ community.

The #DEDPXL06 hashtag from 500px and Instagr.am.

Cheers,
Zack

Zack Arias

A full time commercial and editorial photographer, Zack shoots everything from bands to CEOs to ad campaigns. A gifted teacher and communicator, he has an uncanny ability to meet and connect with all types of people.

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  1. Dave Desmond

    Thank you both so much for going to the effort to do these critiques, its really great and I’m so stoked to be on the reel!

    Seeing as you mentioned it, I just number all the images I put up on flickr so 72 isn’t of any significance to the photo. Maybe “Pop Egg” would have been a good title.

    Thanks again
    Dave

  2. Chris Hood

    When Meg was singing during the tech glich, I almost fell out of my chair! Too funny!

  3. terrie

    Thank God for Meg!
    : )
    Thanks, Zack.

  4. Atheer Hamed

    hi Zack
    why i’m not in see my photo in assignment 🙁
    can i know please

    • Andy

      I think it’s like he mentioned above. There were a lot of great entries, but they could only get to so many. I’d love to know what they thought of mine as well – I know it’s not horrible, but it’s not jaw dropping either. So, whatever man. Just keep on shooting and submitting. If nothing else, it’s very good practice for us.

      Good luck on the next one,

      Andy

      • Atheer Hamed

        i work hard and i creative in assignment an egg
        so it’s ok and i will try to do next assignment

        with my best wishes

        Atheer hamed
        iraq-baghdad

  5. Bryan romero

    Just my 2 cents on the portrait of the girl: it’s tough to grade the photo very well when it needs an artist statement just so the viewer can link it to an egg.

    • Stephanie Lehr

      Hi Bryan,

      Thank you for the comment. It seems you are overlooking the irony of my artistic statement, of which includes my argument with myself on devising the statement itself: I had originally not included the statement and had full intentions of letting the image provide visual communication, along with my title providing the appropriate contextual clues for interpretation. However, these two elements were proven to be not enough as I received a few comments in the beginning that suggested premature evaluation of my image without consideration of the clues I had furnished for the audience. Subsequently, I crafted the statement (which was merely the words in my head while conceptualizing my visual).

      The artist and the audience ideally has a reciprocal arrangement as both have responsibilities that need to be fulfilled: the artist, to critically deliver, and the audience, to critically think about the critical delivery. The latter, as evidenced by the first few comments of my image, was not successful, so I had to go back and reevaluate whether or not my critical delivery of just my title and visual composition was strong enough to guide my audience towards the interpretation of the ovaries.

  6. Melissa DiPalma

    Thanks Zack and Meg for the great comments about my image (black and white egg shells) – flattered to hear you would hang it on your wall! These assignments are such a good way to stop and focus on a single theme or idea for a little while. I like that there is a follow-up crit too…really helps to see your selects and hear your reactions to them. Looking forward to more assignments!
    Melissa

  7. Ellen Ingram

    Zack,

    Many thanks for the boundless energy and time that you and Meg devote to the DEDPXL community. I’m not aware of any other national venue like this.

    I’m posting this because I’m confused. I don’t know if it is appropriate or acceptable etiquette to post this type of inquiry, or if I’m crossing a boundary, but I feel compelled to do so. Please know that the sole purpose of the post is to better understand.

    Specifically, this is in regard to the critique methods used for the image “Fallopian.” This is NOT about the image. Everyone who views it will have her/his own interpretation and reaction.

    So, here’s why I’m confused. I was under the assumption (perhaps mistakenly so) that each image included in the critique was rated using the A, B, C, D, and F system and that each image had to stand on its own merits. With this particular image, an additional set of criteria was introduced; namely, the supplementary, explanatory narrative furnished by the photographer, which includes: an artist’s statement; personal ideology; an interpretation of artistic intent; and a justification for being included. Basically, the photographer provided the story behind the image and their thought process.

    So here are my questions.
    1) When an image is critiqued, is the outcome based solely on the merits of the photo, or is the outcome based on a combination of the merits plus additional supplementary information furnished by the photographer?
    2) If it’s the latter, then is it reasonable to conclude that in the future, photographers who submit images can now also include this type of supplementary narrative and it, too, will be considered when grading the image?
    3) Lastly, two rhetorical questions. What would the grade have been if the photographer had not furnished an explanatory narrative? Would the image have stood on its own merits based on the A, B, C, D, and F structure?

    I understand that you make the rules for the DEDPXL Flickr group and that if I don’t agree with them I can go somewhere else. However, I’m asking these questions in the hope that moving forward to the DEDPXL07 and the 2015 assignments, everyone in the DEDPXL community will have a common understanding of the review criteria.

    Please know that my questions are submitted with great respect for the work that you do for the photography community.

    Kind regards,
    Ellen

    • Stephanie Lehr

      Ellen,

      The true question is whether or not an artist statement is needed for interpretation. With “Fallopian”, I was under the obligation to provide a statement, as I was receiving criticism that was rudimentary and underdeveloped in terms of interpretation. My original intention was to let my title and the shapes of the visual provide the language, but I was unsuccessful as evidence by the feedback I was receiving.

      My response to Byran Romero says it all. He wrote, “Just my 2 cents on the portrait of the girl: it’s tough to grade the photo very well when it needs an artist statement just so the viewer can link it to an egg.

      My response:
      “Thank you for the comment. It seems you are overlooking the irony of my artistic statement, of which includes my argument with myself on devising the statement itself: I had originally not included the statement and had full intentions of letting the image provide visual communication, along with my title providing the appropriate contextual clues for interpretation. However, these two elements were proven to be not enough as I received a few comments in the beginning that suggested premature evaluation of my image without consideration of the clues I had furnished for the audience. Subsequently, I crafted the statement (which was merely the words in my head while conceptualizing my visual).

      The artist and the audience ideally has a reciprocal arrangement as both have responsibilities that need to be fulfilled: the artist, to critically deliver, and the audience, to critically think about the critical delivery. The latter, as evidenced by the first few comments of my image, was not successful, so I had to go back and reevaluate whether or not my critical delivery of just my title and visual composition was strong enough to guide my audience towards the interpretation of the ovaries.”

      As my work would typically be for an academic audience, I have to provide an accessible delivery of my artistic message in this DEDPXL venue (consisting the varied amounts of personal backgrounds, interests, education levels, etc) and the artist statement fulfills that. My artist statement for “Fallopian” is somewhat of a “meta-statement” because in it, I discuss the reasons for providing the statement itself.

      I taught a street photography session over the summer, where I provided the notion of “being responsible viewers”. As viewer, we bear responsibility to critically think about a piece of art, just as the artist took the time to critically deliver something to be thought about. Rather than to exclusively succumb to an arbitrarily-based “merits based on the A, B, C, D, and F structure”, all art in general deserves discourse rather than trying forge it into a preexisting evaluation in attempt to define its reality. My definition of art in this particular context is a photograph that has a philosophical, personal, political, or cultural message.

      Stephanie

      • Stephanie Lehr

        This is a very important continuation of my response to Ellen’s comment. I would also like it to be a message to Zach and Meg.

        With “Fallopian”, I was put in a Catch-22 situation by DEDPXL community. During the brief time in the beginning when my image was posted and I had NO artist statement posted, I was receiving negative criticism of “THAT’S NOT AN EGG!!!”. As I stated before, I had originally intended letting my carefully chosen title provide interpretation towards my visual. When I decided to post my artist statement in an attempt to help my audience, I then received much criticism and anger (primarily on YouTube) for having a statement to justify my work.

        Here is my question that I would like answered. Would those photographers who expressed anger and ad hominem attacks (not thoughtful critique) towards my artist statement (“[her] artist license pisses me off”; “she is just talking out of her ass”), would they have the same frustrated and angry response towards my visual WITHOUT an accompanying statement, as the frustration and anger would now be “THAT’S NOT AN EGG!!!” ?

        As an artist, I was meticulous and good-intentioned on both ends: first deciding to let my title and image speak for itself, then trying to help my audience more with my statement. Above all, with considered of the Catch-22 situation, it clearly evident that this is an audience-related issue.

  8. sara

    This is an amazing place to learn. Thank you for taking the time of doing these critiques.

  9. john healey

    Stephanie,

    Art isn’t always easy.

    Creating art can be very tough. Once created the artists has to have the strength to push past any self doubts and then face the criticism of people who don’t get or accept their creation as valid work. But this is nothing new, this cycle has been repeated since the first pictures showed up on a cave wall.
    Challenging the viewer is one of the most important ideas that photographers can use to stimulate discussion and thought about a subject.
    “Fallopian” isn’t easy. It’s not just another egg shot. It’s gritty and not pretty but it makes you stop and think about what your viewing.

    It’s art and it’s not easy.
    Thank you for that…

    • sara

      I think it´s gritty AND pretty.

  10. john healey

    Zack & Meg,
    Thanks for the favourable critique. It is such a rush to have your work selected, pulled apart and examined especially when there are so many great egg shots in the pool.
    On to DEDPXL07!

  11. Steve

    Hey Zack,

    You’re a recent (and very pleasing) discovery – You’re blog, your videos, your images, and most of all your wit. Came across your stuff on the path to my Fuji X epiphany. Now I’ve listened to this critique, I’m seeing where that sense of humour comes from that clicks so much with me – Your family are all crackers just like you! Brilliant. Love it. Keep it up x

    Steve

  12. Sunil

    Awesome vid, Matt! The critique sadwnich is something I learned as a martial arts CIT (certified intern in training) when we had to critique peoples (and each others) forms and combinations: something good, something to improve, and something good again. It takes a lot of practice to be able to do it on the spot though, where you have a LOT less time to think and ponder what you are suppose to be critiquing. ^^ But this was definitely a good reminder, and I’ve always been eager to receive critiques, though I don’t get them too often, so it’s like giving water to a thirsty man when I do! XD.One thing that is very important, I think, when giving critiques is for you to actually understand the concepts themselves. Maybe not to the point of actually being able to apply it to your own work just yet, but still, understand it. A perfect example was with me watching this video! I could tell before you even pointed it out, that something was not sitting well with me around the arm area. But I could not for the life of me put it into words! But as soon as YOU worded it, it was like *lightbulb* “That’s it!” lol. And the more interesting part? Anatomy is one of my weak points, so that’s why I found it so hard to even pin point it as the problem. Anyways, long story short, this video made me think, as all your vids do, really. But I just had to comment here as it really hit close to home since I’ve had prior experience in dealing with and learning about critiques. Thanks for the hard work Matt! You have my support!

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